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About Me
- Edward F. Palm
- Forest, Virginia, United States
- A long time ago, my sophomore English teacher, Father William Campbell, saw something in my writing and predicted that I would someday become a newspaper columnist. He suggested the perfect title for my column--"Leaves of the Palm." Now that I have a little extra time on my hands I've decided to put Father Campbell's prediction to the test. I'm going to start using this blog site not just to reprint opinion pieces I've published elsewhere but to try to get more of my ideas and opinions out there. Feedback is welcome. To find out more about me, please check out my Web site: www.EdwardFPalm.com (Click on any of the photos below for an enlarged view.)
Showing posts with label Vietnam and Afghanistan. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Vietnam and Afghanistan. Show all posts
Saturday, August 28, 2010
Mere Palm Loosed Upon Seattle
I'm pleased that The Seattle Times gave me a little space to today to comment on a topic near and dear to my heart. It is in keeping with my motto: If you can't be insightful, at least be inciteful: "Vietnam vets should speak up"
Sunday, March 7, 2010
Everything Old Is New Again!
{Korean-American Woman Marine visiting an orphanage, Yechon, Korea, 1984)
I was intrigued to read in today's Seattle Times that the Marines are forming and training "Female-Engagement Teams." These will be teams of four or five enlisted women Marines (WMs) whose mission it will be to try to win the hearts and minds of Afghan women living in traditional villages, which bar women from speaking with men outside their families. As part of their cultural sensitivity training, these WMs are being told to allow their pony tails to stick out from behind their helmets, so that the villagers will be able to tell that they are women; to wear head scarves under their helmets, or to don them upon removing their helmets; and to make small talk (through an interpreter, of course) and to play with the children before asking direct questions. According to the article, the main question they are to ask is what the village most needs.
Talk about "deja vu all over again," this was the very same question that we in Combined Action were supposed to ask in an effort to ingratiate ourselves with the people in traditional Vietnamese villages. As I recall, when we asked this question at Papa Three, the answer was "nothing." The village chief couldn't think of anything the village needed that we could provide.
I wish the dedicated women Marines volunteering for this endeavor well. I really do. But I do have to wonder about two possible impediments.
First, is the traditional Afghan culture as xenophobic as the village culture of Vietnam in the 1960s? If so, Afghan women are not likely to open up to young American women, especially women who have embraced roles essentially alien and perhaps unimaginable to Afghan women.
Second, I wonder if Afghan villages have a well-entrenched enemy infrastructure largely invisible to us, such as we faced in Vietnam? Even if they don't, these Female-Engagement Teams, and the grunts accompanying them, are only passing through. They're not settling in to say. ("Clearing and Holding" is the phrase for it.) Hence, the village women may be afraid to open up to these WMs, knowing that the Taliban could soon return to punish even the appearance of collaboration.
The article also mentions that these WMs will be armed with M-4 rifles, a shortened version of the standard M-16s carried by the men. The subtext seems to be that the smaller M-4, in this case, is gender appropriate. Should they also be pink?
Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. But, on a serious note, I see a mixed message that may undercut the mission here. On the one hand, these women are supposed to be putting a kinder, gentler face on our presence. On the other hand, they are dressed and armed like warriors. Can these two roles really be reconciled? It occurs to me that this was essentially our liability in CAP. We were supposed to be both warriors and ambassadors in green. But in our case, at least, the disconnect was not accentuated by gender.
I worry that our cultural overtures in Afghanistan are grounded in the same naive presupposition that led to our defeat in Vietnam--namely, that, deep down inside, people everywhere are just like us. It's just not true. You'd think we would have learned that by now. --EFP
I was intrigued to read in today's Seattle Times that the Marines are forming and training "Female-Engagement Teams." These will be teams of four or five enlisted women Marines (WMs) whose mission it will be to try to win the hearts and minds of Afghan women living in traditional villages, which bar women from speaking with men outside their families. As part of their cultural sensitivity training, these WMs are being told to allow their pony tails to stick out from behind their helmets, so that the villagers will be able to tell that they are women; to wear head scarves under their helmets, or to don them upon removing their helmets; and to make small talk (through an interpreter, of course) and to play with the children before asking direct questions. According to the article, the main question they are to ask is what the village most needs.
Talk about "deja vu all over again," this was the very same question that we in Combined Action were supposed to ask in an effort to ingratiate ourselves with the people in traditional Vietnamese villages. As I recall, when we asked this question at Papa Three, the answer was "nothing." The village chief couldn't think of anything the village needed that we could provide.
I wish the dedicated women Marines volunteering for this endeavor well. I really do. But I do have to wonder about two possible impediments.
First, is the traditional Afghan culture as xenophobic as the village culture of Vietnam in the 1960s? If so, Afghan women are not likely to open up to young American women, especially women who have embraced roles essentially alien and perhaps unimaginable to Afghan women.
Second, I wonder if Afghan villages have a well-entrenched enemy infrastructure largely invisible to us, such as we faced in Vietnam? Even if they don't, these Female-Engagement Teams, and the grunts accompanying them, are only passing through. They're not settling in to say. ("Clearing and Holding" is the phrase for it.) Hence, the village women may be afraid to open up to these WMs, knowing that the Taliban could soon return to punish even the appearance of collaboration.
The article also mentions that these WMs will be armed with M-4 rifles, a shortened version of the standard M-16s carried by the men. The subtext seems to be that the smaller M-4, in this case, is gender appropriate. Should they also be pink?
Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. But, on a serious note, I see a mixed message that may undercut the mission here. On the one hand, these women are supposed to be putting a kinder, gentler face on our presence. On the other hand, they are dressed and armed like warriors. Can these two roles really be reconciled? It occurs to me that this was essentially our liability in CAP. We were supposed to be both warriors and ambassadors in green. But in our case, at least, the disconnect was not accentuated by gender.
I worry that our cultural overtures in Afghanistan are grounded in the same naive presupposition that led to our defeat in Vietnam--namely, that, deep down inside, people everywhere are just like us. It's just not true. You'd think we would have learned that by now. --EFP
Tuesday, January 19, 2010
"Tiger Papa Three" Revisited
[A Papa Three Popular Force soldier, summer, 1967]
A British Ph.D. candidate found my Combined Action Vietnam memoir, "Tiger Papa Three," and asked if I thought my experience had been "exceptional." He also asked how Vietnam-style combined action compares to the current Provincial Reconstruction Team approach in Iraq and Afghanistan. I thought I would share my response. --EFP Dear Craig Wood,
Thank you very much for your interest and your kind words about my CAP memoir. I suppose I am an iconoclast when it comes to the Marine Corps' Combined Action Program in Vietnam. To be sure, some Combined Action platoons were more successful than Papa Three. The best measure of that success, I've come to realize, is how often and how aggressively they were attacked. But many of those who celebrate, and even romanticize, the Combined Action Program tend to ignore or minimize some of the cultural and political realities of that time and place.
First, the fact that villagers and Popular Force soldiers could be superficially friendly didn't necessarily mean that they were on our side. The Viet Cong infrastructure was well-entrenched and pervasive throughout the countryside in Vietnam. It had been there, in a dormant stage at least, since the First Indochina War, and it certainly came to life again with our entry into the war. As we came to realize at Papa Three, the villagers and even our PFs had made their accommodations with that infrastructure. They may not have all been enthusiastic supporters of that infrastructure, but many of its members may have been their friends and neighbors. The reality was that our PFs had to live among the local VC, and we couldn't protect them once they went home.
Now, in hindsight, I can hardly blamed our PFs for refusing to patrol with us. A pop culture allusion/analogy comes to mind. In the film "Chinatown," someone asks Jack Nicholson's character what he did as a policeman in Chinatown. His answer: "As little as possible." I imagine that's the way our PFs felt. I know that's the way many of us felt--if we're honest with ourselves. We found ourselves caught up in an inscrutable (pardon the cliché) cultural contest. When you don't even understand the game, much less feel that you can win it, it's better to try to sit it out.
In later life, at an academic conference, a Vietnamese woman told me that my cultural insights were sound. She told me that, even though she is Vietnamese and speaks the language, she couldn't go into a strange village and expect to be taken into anyone's confidence. That traditional Vietnamese culture was insular and xenophobic. How could we expect to know what was going on in the villages to which we were assigned?
Second, an absence of enemy contact didn't necessarily mean that a village was "pacified." As we discovered at Papa Three, that VC infrastructure was a highly disciplined organization that could bide its time so as not to jeopardize the larger strategy.
Third, to my fellow CAP veterans who romanticize the program, I have always posed this question: If the program really was successful in winning the hearts and minds of villagers and PFs, why did none of these supposed allies tip us off about the impending Tet Offensive. We now know that the VC infrastructure was helping with the NVA infiltration and the logistics of the offensive. I have to believe that we, the Americans, were the last to know.
This is not to say that we couldn't and shouldn't have done better at Papa Three. The problem was that we really weren't given enough of a cultural and historical orientation. As I believe I pointed out in "Tiger Papa Three," the guiding premise of the program was that young Americans are inherently likeable and could win over the people. The Marine Corps ignored the cultural conditioning of my generation and even the realities of our military indoctrination. Most young Americans in those days were raised in an atmosphere of pervasive racism--influencing our attitudes toward Asian people as well as people of color. Our military indoctrination likewise reinforced the prejudice that Asian people were inferior and couldn't be trusted. It was a tall order to take those same, largely uneducated young Marines and expect them to be culturally sensitive ambassadors in green.
As for the current conflicts, I see one important advantage that today's military enjoys. I think that the current generation of young soldiers and Marines are much more tolerant of multiculturalism and diversity than we were. That has to help. Also, I am told that they are getting much more of a cultural indoctrination than we got. Finally, I understand that the PRTs represent a much more comprehensive and larger scale, coordinated effort than the Combined Action Program of old. Our great liability, as I've written, was that Combined Action was very much an enlightened gesture of dissent against a search-and-destroy strategy that clearly wasn't working and which would ultimately prove to be self-defeating. The Marine Corps was very much going it alone, with little help or encouragement from other agencies.
On the other hand, I do see the same disconnect happening in Iraq and Afghanistan that proved self-defeating in Vietnam. Every time a Predator drone strike kills 15 civilians and maybe one bad guy, we have, in effect, created more VC/Moslem extremists than we killed. As William Lederer long ago tried to remind us, iin his book Our Own Worst Enemy, in a counterinsurgency, it’s the people that count.
And one other reservation comes to mind: As I understand it, the Afghan government has even less influence and control over the people in the countryside than the late South Vietnamese government had over its people. I'm told that it's very much a tribal society and another highly insular culture. Can we really win hearts and minds among the Afghan people, especially when we don't have the means to provide physical security for all those tribes dispersed throughout a country larger than Vietnam?
But, in all fairness, I only know what I've read and been told about Iraq and Afghanistan. Note that I am copying Chuck Armstrong on this message. Chuck Armstrong is a retired Marine colonel and a counterinsurgency specialist who has been involved in preparing Marines for the current conflicts. He has also gone to Iraq and Afghanistan--several times, as I understand it. Chuck could tell you much more than I could about how the current PRT approach is working.
Note that I have also copied Larry Scroggs, who served with me at Papa Three and who also served in a more successful CAP platoon. Larry and I don't always agree on the effectiveness and legacy of the program, but he is one of the CAP veterans who deals in well-informed reasoned opinion.
I think you would find both Larry and Chuck both to be helpful. Sorry to go on at such length, but I found this to be a welcome distraction from the online teaching I should be doing this morning. Thanks again for contacting me, and good luck with your dissertation.
Sincerely,
Ed Palm
Thursday, December 3, 2009
No More Vietnams?
[I took this photo at the annual "Mummer's Parade," Middletown, DE, Jan. 1, 2002]
George Will's column in today's Washington Post is a must-read. Will makes a cogent case for why our Afghan war cannot end well. He points out that the principal excuses for waging this war--to defeat Al Qaeda and to stabilize the Afghan government--are invalid. Al Qaeda is not concentrated in Afghanistan, and it would take decades to establish an Afghan government that could keep Muslim extremists out of the country. Then there is the problem of our announced intention to begin withdrawing in 2011. Obama, ironically, is pursuing the same surge strategy in Afghanistan that Bush pursued in Iraq. But here is the paragraph that really caught my attention: The president's party will not support his new policy, his budget will not accommodate it, our overstretched and worn-down military will be hard-pressed to execute it, and Americans' patience will not be commensurate with Afghanistan's limitless demands for it. This will not end well.
I was happy to see such a prominent commentator acknowledge the toll this latest surge is going to take on our troops.
Just the other day, I head someone suggest that "this," after all, is what the troops volunteered for. Not quite. We don't have "volunteers" in the sense that the French Foreign Legion of old had "volunteers." Our young "warriors" didn't enlist in search of a good war or, failing that, whatever war we've got. Most carry a set of decidedly mixed motives, and even family ties, in their Alice Packs. Their new service anthem should perhaps be Credence Clearwater's "Fortunate Son," which poses and answers the following musical question, Whenever I ask how much should we give,/The only answer is more, more, more!"
Obama, of course, insists that Afghanistan will not be another Vietnam. We'll see. But even neo-cons Michael Medved and Michael Savage seem to be worried about the parallels. At the same time, some dismiss the comparison, pointing out that the number and rate of casualties in Afghanistan pale in comparison to Vietnam. My answer: Give them time. We may get there yet.
And if we do, I'd like to suggest an appropriate memorial. We could just build another V-shaped wall parallel to the existing Vietnam Memorial. Viewed from above, it would resemble a corporal's chevron, visually driving home the parallels between the two wars. --EFP
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